Now that military protection of Europe by the United States no longer seems a foregone conclusion, the EU is proving to be capable of steps that until recently were thought impossible. The European Commission wants to free up as much as 800 million euros for defense, to be invested in European companies. What direction is this sector actually moving in? We put this question to retired Lieutenant General Ton van Loon.
Pension funds can play a role in those extra investments in defense. For example, pension fund ABP is willing to discuss this further, under clear conditions. How do you view this?
Van Loon: “First of all, I think institutional investors of all types should realize that you shouldn’t necessarily reject investing in defense. ‘We don’t invest in guns because guns are bad,’ is something that people were saying for some time. Let’s stop that immediately. Plus, we must realize that you can possibly make a lot of money investing in defense right now. But, of course, an institutional investor has to look at the very long term.”
Can you explain that?
“What we are currently doing in defense is, first of all, ‘fixing’ what we have destroyed over decades through unwise budget cuts. Building up tank battalions and the like are short-term emergency fixes. But as an institutional investor, you have to start looking at what industry has a long-term effect on what is happening in Europe, and in what form. For Europe, in the long term that means standing on its own two feet. We have to start thinking much more about how we can remain competitive as an economy. What steps should we take to do that? The defense industry is one such area where we now see that if Europe wants to innovate, it can. Two years ago, no one in Europe was making drones. Now we produce thousands a week. A good example is VDL NedCar in Limburg (NL), which, after MINIs, is now going to produce drones for defense. Rheinmetall already has two factories in Ukraine and is expanding that to four. So, the capacity and especially the brainpower for the defense industry is there.”
What should the government do to encourage companies that focus on that long term? Place orders for the long term, as is often said?
“The big players in the defense industry are not at all afraid that those orders will not come. They mainly fear the sluggish process of arriving at the decision to submit those orders. In fact, producing weapons is not even allowed at all if you don’t have an order. So, you will have to come up with a system - at the European level, I think personally - where you can develop production capacity even before orders are placed. Take ammunition, for example. I am not at all in favor of producing huge mountains of it. Because you have to store it somewhere, and if a war doesn’t happen, it will still be there in ten years and you will have to clean it up. Instead, you have to make sure you have the production capacity and keep developing it. But then governments have to cooperate and, above all, invest. The time when a procurement project took twenty years is over. Because in Ukraine, you can see how incredibly fast things are developing now.”